Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-03-10, 11:52

Mam pytanie w związku z poszukiwaniami c6 ( celowałem na razie w 2.4v6 ) wpadła mi ciekawa sztuka 3.0tdi quattro z 2008 roku - auto w miarę z pewnych rąk ( całe info po vin bede mial we wtorek ) , i chcialbym sie dowiedzieć co moge w czasie oględzin samemu zdiagnozawać vagiem , jakie grupy itd. W benzynie jestem obcykany a tu niestety nic. Szukałem na forum i zaden temat mi nie wpadl w oko. Jak bylo to przepraszam za zaśmiecanie.
BYŁY : A4 B5 1.9TDI TIP , A6 C5 2.4 MULTI , A6 C6 3.0TDI MAN , A4 B5 1.8T TIP JEST : Ford Smax 2.0TDCI automat , A4 B7 2.0TDI MULTI
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Model: A4
Nadwozie: Avant
Zasilanie: Diesel
Silnik: 2.0TDI BLB 140KM
Napęd: FWD
Skrzynia: Multitronic
Rok: 2005
Imię: Michał

Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez zibi06 » 2018-03-10, 21:21

bendzji napisał(a):jakie grupy itd.

Przejrzyj ..

Basic setting as at 30.10. 2008
for 2.7/3.0 L TDI CR
Engine code letters: CANA, CANB, CANC, CAND,
CDYA, CDYB, CDYC

001 Quantity adjustment
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Injection quantity mean
At idle: 4 ... 11 mg/stroke
3) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020
4) Coolant temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 115 °C

002 Idling speed

1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Accelerator pedal position
At idle: 0 %
At full throttle: 100%
3) Accelerator pedal switch settings
X X X X X X X 1 Status AC compressor ON
X X X X 1 X X X Idling speed switch ON
X X X 1 X X X X Kickdown switch ON
X 1 X X X X X X Idling speed increased
4) Coolant temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 115 °C

003 Exhaust gas recirculation EGR
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Specified intake air mass
[mg/stroke]
3) Actual air mass
[mg/stroke]
4) EGR control value
[%]

004 Main injection
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Main injection, start of activation
[°CA]
3) Main injection, duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020

005 Starting conditions
Stored from last engine start
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Starting injection quantity
[mg/stroke]
3) Start synchronisation
001 No synchronisation between engine control unit and engine
005 Too many resynchronisation cycles Torsion between crankshaft and camshaft too large
020 Position for synchronisation set by run-out detector
033 Synchronisation present, but still being checked
036 Synchronisation present, but still being checked (slave engine control unit only)
038 No valid camshaft signal, run camshaft emergency mode to synchronise

048 Synchronisation complete --> Starting OK
060 No valid crankshaft signal, crankshaft emergency running mode
4) Coolant temperature
[°C]

006 Cruise control system CCS
1) Vehicle speed
CCS activatable: above 35 km/h
2) CCS status
X X X X X X X 1 Brake light switch pressed
X X X X X X 1 X Brake pedal switch pressed
X X X X X 1 X X Clutch pedal switch pressed
X X X X 1 X X X CCS enabled
X X X 1 X X X X ACC enabled
X X 1 X X X X X Main switch ON
0 0 X X X X X X ACC/CCS mode inactive
1 0 X X X X X X State overspill
0 1 X X X X X X ACC/CCS in control range
1 1 X X X X X X ACC not enabled
3) CCS target speed
[km/h]
4) CCS switch settings
X X X X X X X 1 Main switch ON
X X X X X X 1 X Tapped OFF
X X X X X 1 X X Tap Down, reduce
X X X X 1 X X X Tap Up, increase
X X X 1 X X X X Set
X X 1 X X X X X Resume
X 1 X X X X X X Fault message steering column module
1 X X X X X X X Main switch hardware locked ON

007 Temperature senders

1) Fuel temperature
to 70 °C
2) Oil temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 110 °C
3) Intake air temperature
to 90 °C
4) Coolant temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 115 °C

008 Limiting torques
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Engine torque specification
[Nm] Driver input via accelerator pedal
3) Torque limitation
[Nm]
4) Smoke limitation
[Nm]

009 Limiting torques

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) CCS limiting torque
[Nm]
3) Limiting torque gearbox control unit
[Nm]
4) Limiting torque
[Nm]

010 Air quantities

1) Actual air mass
At idle: 210 ... 280 mg/stroke
At full throttle: > 1050 mg/stroke
At ambient air pressure 970 ... 1020 mbar
2) Ambient air pressure
[mbar]
3) Actual charge pressure
At idle: 950 ... 1080 mbar
At full throttle: > 2150 mbar
At ambient air pressure 970 ... 1020 mbar
4) Accelerator pedal position
[%]
- With exhaust gas recirculation switched off, e.g. due to high intake air temperature the air mass at idle may be increase In this case press the accelerator in short bursts and check whether the air mass then decreases.
- Additionally check air mass via basic setting of EGR and turbocharger basic setting.

011 Charge pressure control
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Specified charge pressure
[mbar]
3) Actual charge pressure
At idle: 950 ... 1080 mbar
At full throttle: > 2150 mbar
At ambient air pressure 970 ... 1020 mbar
4) Charge pressure control value
[%]

012 Preheating system
1) Preheating system status
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Waiting for coolant temperature
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Waiting for start request
0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Glow period
0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 No glow
1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 After-glow
1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 No start glow
1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 Intermediate glow
0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 Readiness glow
0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 Start glow
1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 Waiting for after-glow
1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 No after-glow
1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 Waiting for intermediate glow
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 No glow
2) Glow period
[s]
3)Vehicle voltage
[V]
4) Coolant temperature
[°C]

013 Smooth running control

1) Cylinder 1 injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
2) Cylinder 2 injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
3) Cylinder 3 injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
4) Vacant
Permissible values at idle: +- 1.5 mg/stroke
A If the permissible tolerance is exceeded first check injector IQA-IVA adaption values, if OK electrical wiring and connectors from engine control unit to injector


014 Smooth running control

1) Cylinder 4 injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
2) Cylinder 5 injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
3) Cylinder 6 injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
4) Vacant
Permissible values at idle: +- 1.5 mg/stroke
A If the permissible tolerance is exceeded first check injector IQA-IVA adaption values, if OK electrical wiring and connectors from engine control unit to injector


015 Fuel consumption

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Actual engine torque
[Nm]
3) Fuel consumption
[litres/h]
4) Engine torque specification
[Nm] Driver input via accelerator pedal

016 Additional heater
Only A4, A5, A6
1) Additional heater enable
0 0 No enable
0 1 No enable stage 1
1 0 No enable stage 2
1 1 Enable stages 1 and 2

2) Additional heater shut-off conditions
X X X X X X X 0 No shut-off condition
X X X X X X X 1 Coolant temperature adequate
X X X X X X 1 X Alternator load signal fault
X X X X X 1 X X Battery voltage too high
X X X X 1 X X X Engine speed too low
X X X 1 X X X X Start delay active
X X 1 X X X X X Water temperature sensor, air temperature sensor or output stage defective
X 1 X X X X X X Operating switch (not active)
1 X X X X X X X Intake manifold temperature adequate

3) Additional heater relay activation
0 0 Relay not activated
0 1 Low heat output relay
1 0 High heat output relay
1 1 Both relay contacts active
4) Alternator output

017 --- For readiness code see 089

018 Rail pressure control

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Fuel temperature
[°C]
3) Rail pressure control status
00 Ignition on, open-loop control mode
01 Open-loop control mode after start
02 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve (on switch between open-loop and closed-loop control)
03 Closed-loop control via solenoid valve (on switch between open-loop and closed-loop control)
04 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve (normal operating mode)
05 Closed-loop control via solenoid valve (normal operating mode)
06 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve (on switch to pressure regulation via quantity control valve)
07 Open-loop control (engine is stopped)
08 Open-loop control (on switch from open-loop to closed-loop control)
11 Open-loop control after running tank empty
15 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve and quantity control valve
16 Switch after closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve to quantity control valve
17 Switch after CPC closed-loop control
18 Switch after closed-loop control via quantity control valve
4) Vacant

020 Rail pressure control
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Specified rail pressure
[bar]
3) Rail pressure actual
[bar]
4) Pressure regulating valve activation
At idle: 13 ... 37 %
- Values for warmed-up engine
- Permissible difference between specified and actual value at
Idle: maximum +-20 bar

021 Rail quantity control
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Specified rail pressure
Check values with measured value block 020
3) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020
4) Quantity adjuster valve activation
At idle: 33 ... 62 %
- Values for warmed-up engine

024 Pre-injection 3
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Pre-injection 3 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Pre-injection 3 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020

025 Pre-injection 2
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Pre-injection 2 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Pre-injection 2 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020

026 Pre-injection 1

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Pre-injection 1 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Pre-injection 1 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020

028 Post-injection 2
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Post-injection 2 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Post-injection 2 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020

029 Post-injection 1
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Post-injection 1 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Post-injection 1 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 020

030 Accelerator pedal position

1) Accelerator pedal sender 1
[V]
2) Accelerator pedal sender 2
[V]
3) Accelerator pedal switch settings
X X X X X X X 1 Status AC compressor ON
X X X X 1 X X X Idling speed switch ON
X X X 1 X X X X Kickdown switch ON
X 1 X X X X X X Idling speed increased
4) Accelerator pedal position
[%]

032 Camshaft edges
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Start synchronisation
001 No synchronisation between engine control unit and engine
005 Too many resynchronisation cyclesTorsion between crankshaft and camshaft too large
020 Position for synchronisation set by run-out detector
033 Synchronisation present, but still being checked
036 Synchronisation present, but still being checked (slave engine control unit only)
038 No valid camshaft signal, run camshaft emergency mode to synchronise
048 Synchronisation complete--> Starting OK
060 No valid crankshaft signal, crankshaft emergency running mode

3) Camshaft edge 1
[°CA]
4) Camshaft edge 2
[°CA]

033 Temperature protection

Only 3.0 L TDI CR
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Exhaust gas temperature before turbocharger
At idle: 100 ... 310 °C (with radiator fluid > 75 °C)
At full throttle: 540 ... 830 °C
3) Exhaust gas temperature governing factor
At idle: 99 ... 101 % or 0.99 ... 1,01
4) Overall governing factor
At idle: 99 ... 101 % or 0.99 ... 1,01

[b]034 Charge pressure control[/b]
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Charge pressure adjuster activation
[%]
3) Charge pressure adjuster feedback
[%]
4) Charge pressure adjuster output stage
[%]
Permissible difference between activation and feedback at
Idle: maximum +/- 2 %

036 Intake manifold flap bank 1
1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Intake manifold flaps activation
[%]
3) Intake manifold flaps feedback
[%]
4) Intake manifold flaps output stage
[%]
Permissible difference between activation and feedback at
Idle: maximum +/- 2 %


037 Intake manifold flap bank 2

1) Engine speed
At idle: 610 ... 810 rpm
2) Intake manifold flaps 2 activation
[%]
3) Intake manifold flaps 2 feedback
[%]
4) Intake manifold flaps 2 output stage
[%]
Permissible difference between activation and feedback at
Idle: maximum +/- 2 %

038 EGR valve
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) EGR valve activation
[%]
3) EGR valve feedback
[%]
4) EGR valve output stage
[%]

040 Throttle valve

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Throttle valve activation
[%]
3) Throttle valve feedback
[%]
4) Throttle valve output stage
[%]

041 Lambda probe

1) Lambda probe calibration value internal resistance
[Ohm]
2) Oxygen signal offset
[V]
3) Oxygen concentration
[%]
4) Oxygen signal calibration status
0 inactive
1 active

042 Lambda probe

1) Air mass throughput
[-]
2) Lambda probe heater activation
[%]
3) Lambda probe temperature signal
[V]
4) Lambda signal
[-]

043 Lambda probe

1) Air mass throughput
[-]
2) Ambient temperature
[°C]
3) Lambda probe pressure
[mbar]
4) Lambda probe oxygen concentration
[mV]

044 Lambda probe

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Lambda probe electronics
X X X X X X X 1 Full throttle regulator on/off
X X X X X X 1 X Full throttle
X X X X X 1 X X Control deviation negative, i.e. mixture too rich
X X X X 1 X X X System fault
X X X 1 X X X X Oxygen signal invalid or no correction by lambda probe adaption
X X 1 X X X X X Engine starting
X 1 X X X X X X Torque limitation or quantity limitation active
1 X X X X X X X Regeneration exhaust gas treatment
3) Lambda probe plausibility check
001 Current oxygen concentration implausibly high
002 Current oxygen concentration implausibly low
004 Oxygen concentration stationary
008 Plausibility checking enabled
016 Oxygen concentration zero
032 In last time interval no rich operation
4) Lambda probe diagnosis
004 Dynamics of signal too low
008 Cable open circuit
016 Oxygen signal in overrun implausibly low
032 Oxygen signal in overrun implausibly high
064 Oxygen signal at part throttle implausibly low
128 Oxygen signal at part throttle implausibly high
256 Oxygen signal at full throttle implausibly low
512 Oxygen signal at full throttle implausibly high

045 Fan activation

1) Coolant temperature
[°C]
2) Air conditioner fan activation
[%]
3) Radiator fan 1 activation
[%]
4) Radiator fan 2 activation
[%]

046 AC compressor
1) Ambient temperature
[°C]
2) Temperature at air conditioner heat exchanger output
[°C]
3) AC compressor shut-off status 1
X X X X X X X 1 Vehicle starting off
X X X X X X 1 X Shut-off due to starting off state
X X X X X 1 X X Vehicle acceleration
status
X X X X 1 X X X Shut-off due to acceleration
X X X 1 X X X X Shut-off due to starting
X X 1 X X X X X System fault detected
X 1 X X X X X X Shut-off due to system fault
1 X X X X X X X Shut-off due to inadequate idling
speed
4) AC compressor shut-off status 2
0 Compressor not switched off by control unit
1 Compressor switched off by control unit

051 Speed recording
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Camshaft speed
[rpm]
3) Start synchronisation
001 No synchronisation between engine control unit and engine
005 Too many resynchronisation cycles Torsion between crankshaft and camshaft too large
020 Position for synchronisation set by run-out detector
033 Synchronisation present, but still being checked
036 Synchronisation present, but still being checked (slave engine control unit only)
038 No valid camshaft signal, run camshaft emergency mode to synchronise

048 Synchronisation complete --> Starting OK
060 No valid crankshaft signal,crankshaft emergency running mode
4) Vacant

057 Engine mounting
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Vehicle speed
[km/h]
3) Engine mounting valve, right, activation
[%]
4) Engine mounting valve, left, activation
[%]


059 Ancillaries
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Actual engine torque
[Nm]
3) Engine torque loss
[Nm]
4) Ancillaries torque
[Nm]

060 Ancillaries
1) Engine torque loss
[Nm]
2) Clutch torque min
[Nm]
3) AC compressor torque
[Nm]
4) Alternator output
[W]

070 Zero quantity calibration ZQC
1) ZQC learning cycle counter 1st calibration pressure
[-]
2) ZQC learning cycle counter 2nd calibration pressure
[-]
3) ZQC learning cycle counter 3rd calibration pressure
[-]
4) Vacant

072 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 1 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 1 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 1 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

073 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 2 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 2 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 2 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

074 Zero quantity calibration ZQC
1) ZQC cyl. 3 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 3 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 3 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

075 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 4 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 4 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 4 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

076 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 5 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 5 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 5 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

077 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 6 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 6 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 6 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

089 Readiness code

1) EOBD data A
X 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 No fault messages stored in engine control unit

0 X X X X X X X Emissions warning lamp (MIL) OFF
1 X X X X X X X Emissions warning lamp (MIL) ON
2) EOBD data B
- X X X - X X 1 Misfire monitoring activated
- X X X - X 1 X Fuel system monitoring activated
- X X X - 1 X X Complete system monitoring activated
- X X X - 1 X X Misfire detection monitoring activated
- X 0 X - X X X EOBD test fuel system completed with OK

- 0 X X - X X X EOBD test overall system completed with OK

3) EOBD data C
X X X X X X X 1 Catalytic converter monitoring activated
X X X X X X 1 X Catalytic converter hot monitoring activated
X X X X X 1 X X Evaporation system monitoring activated
X X X X 1 X X X Secondary air system monitoring activated
X X X 1 X X X X Air conditioner coolant monitoring activated
X X 1 X X X X X Lambda probe monitoring activated
X 1 X X X X X X Lambda probe heating monitoring activated
1 X X X X X X X EGR monitoring activated
4) EOBD data D
X - - - - - - 0 EOBD test EGR completed with OK

0 - - - - - - X EOBD test EGR completed with OK


095 Starter control

1) Start request terminal 50
X X 1 Start request from driver
X 1 X Holding circuit to bridge resets active
1 X X Read-back activation status of starter
2) Interlock or P/N signal
Interlock: Signal from selector lever switch Only vehicles with automatic gearbox
P/N: Signal from clutch pedal switch for engine start
Only vehicles with manual gearbox
X X X X X X X 1 Clutch closed
X X X 1 X X X X Interlock or P/N signal
3) Starter control status 1
X X X X X X X 1 Start command
X X X X X X 1 X Engine does not turn over
X X X X X 1 X X Starter motor does not turn over
X X X X 1 X X X Power enable
X X X 1 X X X X Restart enable
X X 1 X X X X X Start command from start/stop coordinator
X 1 X X X X X X Engine speed permitted, engage starter
1 X X X X X X X Start mode announcement
4) Starter control status 2
X X X X X X X 1 Start delay active

096 Starter control
1) Start request terminal 50
X X 1 Start request from driver
X 1 X Holding circuit to bridge resets active
1 X X Read-back activation status of starter
2) Starter control shut-off conditions 1
X X X X X X X 1 New fault in starter control
X X X X X X 1 X Start by term. 15 off
X X X X X 1 X X Fast start (direct start)
3) Starter control shut-off conditions 2
X X X X X X X 1 Start rejection speed reached
X X X X X X 1 X Engine speed reached and term.50 off
X X X X X 1 X X Maximum operating time exceeded
X X X X 1 X X X Term.50 off after number of time false starts
X X X 1 X X X X Abort panic start
X X 1 X X X X X Power detected
X 1 X X X X X X Vehicle speed exceeded
1 X X X X X X X Abort semi-automatic start
4)Vehicle voltage
[V]

098 EGR cooler coolant pump
1) Coolant temperature
[°C]
2) Coolant temperature at radiator outlet
[°C]
3) EGR cooler coolant pump, activation
[%]
4) EGR temperature
[°C]

099 Exhaust gas temperature

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Exhaust gas temperature before turbocharger
[°C]
3) Exhaust gas temperature before particulate filter
[°C]
4) Exhaust gas temperature before particulate filter
[°C] Only on vehicles with particulate filter
The temperature sender is not fitted on the Q7. The
readout is calculated.

100 Service regeneration

Only on vehicles with particulate filter
Note:
Starting service regeneration is possible via Guided Fault Finding
if the <service regeneration> test procedure was
entered in the test plan.
1) Engine speed
In service regeneration: approx. 1500 rpm
2) Surface temperature of filter
[°C]
3) Service regeneration current regeneration time
0 ... 255 or 0 to max. 1200 s
Total duration: 10 to 40 minutes, depending on loading state
4) Service regeneration abort detected
0 = Not aborted
1 = Aborted

101 Service regeneration
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
Note:
With this measured value block fault causes can be located
if the service regeneration was aborted by the engine control unit

1) Service regeneration enable conditions 1
Before start of service regeneration:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 OK, because no service regeneration
active
After start of service regeneration:
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 All enable conditions 1 OK
X X X X X X X 1 Minimum waiting time before start of service
regeneration with engine running
observed
X X X X X X 1 X Coolant temperature OK
X X X X X 1 X X Oil temperature OK
X X X X 1 X X X Ambient air pressure OK
X X X 1 X X X X Fuel temperature OK
X X 1 X X X X X Battery voltage OK
X 1 X X X X X X No clutch pressed
1 X X X X X X X No gear engaged
2) Service regeneration enable conditions 2
Before start of service regeneration:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 OK, because no service regeneration
active
After start of service regeneration:
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 All enable conditions 2 OK
X X X X X X X 1 Road speed = 0
X X X X X X 1 X Engine speed OK
X X X X X 1 X X Injection quantity OK
X X X X 1 X X X Accelerator pedal not pressed
X X X 1 X X X X Particulate filter temperature bank 1 OK
X X 1 X X X X X Particulate filter temperature bank 2 OK
X 1 X X X X X X Pre-catalyst temperature bank 1 OK
1 X X X X X X X Pre-catalyst temperature bank 2 OK
3) Service regeneration enable conditions 3
Before start of service regeneration:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 OK, because no service regeneration
active
After start of service regeneration:
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 All enable conditions 3 OK
X X X X X X X 1 Soot mass in particulate filter in permissible
Range
X X X X X X 1 X No faults in particulate filter functions
X X X X X 1 X X No faults in engine functions
X X X X 1 X X X Maximum regeneration time not exceeded
--> If not OK:
Consumers not switched on,
ambient temperature too cold
X X X 1 X X X X Exhaust gas system heat-up time bank 1
within permissible limits
--> If not OK:
Consumers not switched on,
ambient temperature too cold
X X 1 X X X X X Exhaust gas system heat-up time bank 2
within permissible limits
--> If not OK:
Consumers not switched on,
ambient temperature too cold
X 1 X X X X X X Maximum temperature before particulate filter
bank 1 not exceeded
1 X X X X X X X Maximum temperature before particulate filter
bank 2 not exceeded
4) Service regeneration phase
X X X X X X X 1 Normal operation
X X X X X X 1 X Start
X X X X X 1 X X Heat-up 1
X X X X 1 X X X Heat-up 2
X X X 1 X X X X Regeneration
X X 1 X X X X X Cool-down
X 1 X X X X X X Regeneration successful
1 X X X X X X X Regeneration active

102 Exhaust gas cleaning
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Exhaust gas temperature after pre-catalyst A5, B8, Q5, C6
[°C]
2) Vacant
3) Particulate filter differential pressure
0 ... 950 mbar
4) Differential pressure offset particulate filter
[mbar]

103 Field regeneration
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Field regeneration status 1
X X X X X X X 1 Normal operation
X X X X X X 1 X Regeneration mode
2) Field regeneration status 2
X X X 1 X X X X Normal operation
X X X 1 X X 1 X Regeneration mode
3) Field regeneration request
X X 1 Request by fuel consumption
X 1 X Request by operating time
1 X X Request by distance driven
4) Field regeneration block
0 Regeneration disabled
1 Maximum regeneration time elapsed

104 Particulate filter
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Oil ash
[Ltr]
2) Soot mass calculated
[g]
3) Soot mass measured
[g]
4) Distance since last regeneration
[km]

107 Particulate filter

Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Loading limit 4
[g]
- Value depends on software version and fitted Particulate filter
- If the soot mass ("calculated" or "measured", se measured value block 104, zone 2 or 3) exceeds this limit,field and service regeneration is disabled.
- If after a test drive (approx. 20 minutes at > 2500 rpm) one of the soot mass values is still higher than load limit 4, the particulate filter must be replaced.
2) Loading limit 3
[g]
- Value depends on software version and fitted Particulate filter
- If this limit is exceeded, the engine switches to emergency running and the fault memory entry"Particulate filter overloaded" is stored
3) Loading limit 1
[g]
- Value depends on software version and fitted Particulate filter
- If this limit is exceeded, an attempt is made to start field regeneration (during driving)
4) Exhaust gas volumetric flow particulate filter
[m^3/h] Calculated value

110 Adaptive cruise control ACC
1) ACC specification adjustment
001 Specification adjustment free-wheeling
002 Specification adjustment ON
003 Specification adjustment OFF
2) ACC status
X X X X X X 0 0 ACC inactive
X X X X X X 0 1 ACC active
X X X X X X 1 0 ACC passive
X X X X X X 1 1 ACC initialisation
X X X X X 0 X X No neutral value
X X X X X 1 X X Neutral value
X X 0 X X X X X Not permitted
X X 1 X X X X X Permitted
3) Vehicle speed
[km/h]
4) Vacant

125 CAN communication

1) CAN communic. Automatic gearbox
2) CAN communic. ABS/ESP
3) CAN communic. Instrument cluster
4) CAN communic. Airbag
0 = inactive
1 = active

126 CAN communication
1) CAN communic. AC
2) Vacant
3) Vacant
4) CAN communic. ACC
0 = inactive
1 = active

127 CAN communication
1) CAN communic. 4WD
2) CAN communic. Level
3) CAN communic. Drive authorisation
4) CAN communic. Steering column module
0 = inactive
1 = active

128 CAN communication

1) CAN communic. Gateway
2) CAN communic. Battery energy management
3) CAN communic. Steering angle sender
4) CAN communic. Parking brake
0 = inactive
1 = active

CAN = Controller Area Network
The CAN bus is a network for local interconnection of
control units.

202 Oil pressure pump
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Control oil pump activation
3) Oil low-pressure switch active
4) Oil high-pressure switch active

Basic setting
for 2.7 L and 3.0 L TDI CR as at 30.10. 2008
Engine code letters: CANA, CANB, CANC, CAND, CDYA, CDYB, CDYC

KNote:
To start the "Basic setting" function from Guided
Fault Finding:
1) Press mode button
2) Choose "Vehicle self-diagnosis" menu option
3) Self-diagnosis

003 Basic setting: Exhaust gas recirculation
1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) Follow driver instructions
(pedals must be pressed)
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 1000 rpm

KNote:
The exhaust gas recirculation is now switched on and off intermittently. Specifications with "EGR not active":

Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: EGR not active
Actual air mass: 380 ... 550 mg/stroke
EGR valve feedback: 0 ... 2 %
Specifications with "EGR active":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: EGR active
Actual air mass: 140 ... 270 mg/stroke
EGR valve feedback: 80 ... 100 %

033 Basic setting: Turbocharger

1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) Follow driver instructions
(pedals must be pressed)
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 1000 rpm

KNote:
The turbocharger is now activated at intervals at different duty cycles. Specifications at "closed":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: closed
Actual charge pressure: 970 ... 1150 mbar
Charge pressure adjuster feedback: 98 ... 100 %
Specifications at "open":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: open
Actual charge pressure: 910 ... 1050 mbar
Charge pressure adjuster feedback: 0 ... 2 %
Charge pressure difference between "closed/open": 50 ... 135 mbar OK is OK

044 Basic setting: Intake manifold flap bank 1

1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) Follow driver instructions
(pedals must be pressed)
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 2800 rpm

KNote: The bank 1 intake manifold flaps are now alternately opened and closed at intervals.
Specifications with "flap open":
Engine speed: approx. 2800 rpm
Activation: Flap open
Actual air mass: [mg/stroke]
Intake manifold flap bank 1 feedback: 3 ... 7 %
Specifications with "flap closed":

Engine speed: approx. 2800 rpm
Activation: Flap closed
Actual air mass: [mg/stroke]
Intake manifold flap bank 1 feedback: 93 ... 97 %

Air mass difference between "flap open/closed": min. 20 mg/stroke

055 Basic setting: Intake manifold flap bank 2

1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) Follow driver instructions
(pedals must be pressed)
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 2800 rpm

KNote:
The bank 2 intake manifold flaps are now alternately opened and closed at intervals.

Specifications with "flap open":
Engine speed: approx. 2800 rpm
Activation: Flap open
Actual air mass: [mg/stroke]
Intake manifold flap bank 2 feedback: 3 ... 7 %

Specifications with "flap closed":
Engine speed: approx. 2800 rpm
Activation: Flap closed
Actual air mass: [mg/stroke]
Intake manifold flap bank 2 feedback: 93 ... 97 %

Air mass difference between "flap open/closed": min. 20 mg/stroke

063 Adapting kickdown point

Not AUDI A8
Only vehicles with automatic gearbox
1) Switch off ignition briefly, then ignition on
2) Start basic setting
3) Press down accelerator pedal until status ADP OK is displayed

4) Value is only stored in engine control unit after
approx. 10 seconds ignition OFF.

Specifications:
Sender 1 Accelerator position: 12 ... 97 %
---
Status: ADP.OK
159 Basic setting: Oil pressure valve
1) Engine oil temperature at least 60 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) Follow driver instructions
(pedals must be pressed)

KNote:
First the low pressure stage is run for 8 seconds. During this time the engine speed is increased to 2300 rpm. Then the system switches to the high pressure stage, whichis likewise active for 8 seconds.

Specifications in the low pressure stage:
Oil pressure switching valve: 1(low pressure requested)
Low-pressure switch: 1(closed)
High-pressure switch: 0(open)

Specifications in the high pressure stage:
Oil pressure switching valve: 0(high pressure requested)
Low-pressure switch: 1(closed)
High-pressure switch: 1(closed)
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-03-11, 18:01

oki dzięki , przejrzę lekturę

z tymże to modelowy 2008 więc tam będzie siedzieć ASB pewno - grupy tak samo poukładane?
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez Piotruś » 2018-03-12, 10:16

Michał,

bendzji napisał(a):z tymże to modelowy 2008 więc tam będzie siedzieć ASB pewno - grupy tak samo poukładane?

Z tego co patrzę i co pamiętam tak, grupy wydają się poukładane tak samo.

Wracając do Twojego pytania
chcialbym sie dowiedzieć co moge w czasie oględzin samemu zdiagnozawać vagiem , jakie grupy itd.

warto zauważyć, że diagnostykę najlepiej wykonać ODISEM lub jedną z ostatnich edycji VAS'a, ponieważ VCDS NIE DSYPONUJE plikami etykiet dla tego silnika.
Z tego właśnie powodu większość odczytów pojawia się bez żadnych opisów nie mówiąc już o tym, ze brakuje podpowiedzi z zakresami dopuszczalnych wartości.
W tym kontekście uważam, że powyższy post Zbycha JEST BEZCENNY i wybierając się na oględziny zdecydowanie warto sobie go wydrukować.

Ze względu na brakujące pliki etykiet w VCDS nie zadziałają nastawy podstawowe turbo (011) i EGR (003). Chyba, że zdobędziesz kody dostępu. Ubolewam, ale ja nie potrafię Ci w tej sprawie pomóc. Z drugiej strony nastawy podstawowe nie są aż tak bardzo niezbędne jeśli silnik pracuje prawidłowo, a w blkach mierzonych nie widać specjalnych anomalii.

W mojej ocenie podczas wstępnych oględzin powinieneś przyłożyć szczególną uwagę do parametrów układu wtryskowego oraz nierozerwalnie z nim związanych odczytów DPF.

Odczyty najlepiej dokonywać na w pełni rozgrzanym silniku.

Za pamięci napiszę, że dobrze jest skorzystać z funkcji testu elementów wykonawczych, które pozwolą ustalić sprawność miedzy innymi tak kosztownych w ewentualnej naprawie elementów jak klapy kolektorów ssących (podczas testu koniecznie przyjrzyj się czy dźwignie nie wykazują luzów i pracują w pełnym zakresie pozycji skrajnych), przepustnicy i tak dalej.

Spoglądając w komputer zwróć uwagę na :

001 - dawka paliwa powinna być przede wszystkim stabilna i utrzymywać się na poziomie pomiędzy 4 a 6 mg/suw
003 - EGR, gdyby wartość zadana i oczekiwana znacznie się różniły zrób małą przegazówkę i sprawdź, czy EGR ożył (gdyby nie sprawdź ponownie po krótkiej przejażdżce)
008 - kanał ewidentnie dynamiczny. Podczas przyspieszania (na 3 lub 4 biegu) ważne by wartość z kolumny pierwszej była większa od ostatniej, a ostatnia większa od środkowej (w zakresie pomiędzy 1500 a 3500 obr/min)
010 - według opisu
011 - turbina, raczej nie trzeba tłumaczyć
013 i 014 - tylko na biegu jałowym, korekcje dawki wtrysku.
Niezwykle ważne grupy na wypadek gdyby korekcje znacząco się różniły między sobą lub między głowicami.
Niestety wbrew powszechnej opinii nie zawsze wskazują na problemy z wtryskami, bo gdy wszystkie są jednakowo zwalone korekcja wypadają idealnie.
Dlatego warto posiłkować się odczytami z 001 wskazującymi na ewentualne anomalie w dawkowaniu paliwa.
020 - według opisu i jak tam napisano najważniejsze by odczyty zachowywały się stabilnie. Wahania powyżej 20 mbar (a moim zdaniem nawet mniejsze) mogą wróżyć problemy z czujnikami lub ewentualnie ze sprawnością pompy (mówiąc w największym skrócie).

072 do 077 - niezwykle ważne grupy pozwalające z dużym prawdopodobieństwem określić bieżącą kondycję poszczególnych wtryskiwaczy
Poz 1 nie może być większa ni 45 jednostek. Pozycja 2 nie powinna wykraczać ponad 20 jednostek.
Są to tzw. punkty kalibracyjne wyliczane i weryfikowane cyklicznie przez ECU (w sposób niezauważalny dla użytkownika)
Można ostrożnie przyjąć, że dopóki kalibracja utrzymuje się w dopuszczalnych zakresach korekcji wtryski działają prawidłowo, czyli nie zacirają się i nie przelewają paliwa oraz są zdolne zachować rygor strategii działania prawidłowo odmierzając dawki pilotujące, główne i dopalające.
Oczywiście nic nie jest ewidentnie białe ani ewidentnie czarne ale na etapie zakupu auta wartości z tych grup są najbliższe realnej kondycji układu wtryskowego.
Warto jednak zdawać sobie sprawę, ze niewielkie przekroczenie wartości granicznych niekoniecznie dyskwalifikuje dalszą eksploatację. To znaczy teoretycznie dyskwalifikuje ale większość używanych silników takie odchyłki wykazuje, ale ich działanie wydaje się w żaden sposób nie zakłócone, włącznie z parametrami DPF'a.

Teraz jeszcze DPF, czyli przede wszystkim grupy od 100 do 104.
Tutaj bardzo ciężko wyskrobać skrótową instrukcję interpretacji wyników, bo do tej analizy bardziej potrzebne jest trochę doświadczenia niż sztywne wartości z tabelek.
Postaraj się mocno rozgrzać silnik a potem na dłuższy czas wpierdolić mu pełny gaz "do dechy" na autostradzie na długim wzniesieniu.
Jeżeli bezpośredni po tej próbie na biegu jałowym zobaczysz chwilowe zużycie paliwa większe niż 0,8 - 0,9 litra / h (przy klimie na off), a temperatura filtra będzie wyższa od temperatury przed katalizatorem wstępnym (grupa 102) - wówczas można spodziewać się dużego zapełnienia filtra popiołem, co jednak przy prawidłowej strukturze wkładu DPF łatwo wypłukać profesjonalną regeneracją (np. w pobliskiej Ci firmie EUROVAT).

Na koniec polecam ocenę poziomu oleju w silniku. Co prawda stan oleju wymienianego zgodnie z ilością zalecaną przez ELSE (8 litrów) często utrzymuje się nawet powyżej maksimum na miarce, jednak poziom znacząco wyższy może wskazywać zarówno na problemy wtryskiwaczy albo częściej, na częstotliwe inicjowanie ale niedokończone aktywne dopalanie DPF (inicjowane przez ECU tym częściej i więcej odłożonego popiołu).

Michał, nie wiem ile z tego co napisałem jest zjadliwe i przyswajalne, ale stworzenie odpowiedniej instrukcji uwzględniającej większość możliwych aspektów i zależności w parametrach diagnostycznych zajęłoby mi kilka miesięcy, a jakiś prawdziwy fachowiec i tak uznałby ten trud za jedynie sygnalne liźniecie tematu ... .

W razie czego pytaj dalej. Może akurat będę wiedział jak pomóc. Albo i nie :roll: ;-) ...

No i koniecznie melduj jak tam oględziny i jakie decyzje :-D . Powodzenia :!: :!:
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez zibi06 » 2018-03-12, 10:37

bendzji napisał(a):z tymże to modelowy 2008 więc tam będzie siedzieć ASB

Display groups for 3.0 L TDI CR as at 22.01. 2008
AUDI A6 and A8

001 Quantity adjustment
1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm

2) Injection quantity
At idle: 4 ... 10,5 mg/stroke

3) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 022

4) Coolant temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 110 °C

002 Idling speed
1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Accelerator pedal position
At idle: 0 %
At full throttle: 100%
3) Pedal switch settings
X X 1 Idling speed switch ON
X 1 X Kickdown switch ON
1 X X Idling speed increased
4) Coolant temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 110 °C

003 Exhaust gas recirculation EGR

1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Specified intake air mass
[mg/stroke]
3) Actual air mass
[mg/stroke]
4) EGR valve activation
[%]

004 Main injection
1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Main injection, start of activation
[°CA]
3) Main injection, duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 022

005 Starting conditions
Stored from last engine start
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Starting injection quantity
[mg/stroke]
3) Start synchronisation
000 Basic initialisation
001 Reset counter
002 Engine standstill or fault
003 Transitional states
004 Plausibility check phase
005 Plausibility check phase
006 Plausibility check phase
008 Plausibility check phase
016 Phase definition
032 Synchronisation phase
033 System positioning
048 Calculation sequences activated --> Start OK
064 System waiting for engine standstill
128 Dynamic plausibility check
4) Coolant temperature
[°C]

006 Cruise control system CCS
1) Vehicle speed
CCS activatable: above 35 km/h
2) CCS status
X X X X X X X 1 Brake light switch pressed
X X X X X X 1 X Brake pedal switch pressed
X X X X X 1 X X Clutch pedal switch pressed
X X X X 1 X X X CCS enabled
X X X 1 X X X X ACC enabled
X X 0 X X X X X Main switch
0 0 X X X X X X ACC/CCS mode inactive
1 0 X X X X X X State overspill
0 1 X X X X X X ACC/CCS in control range
1 1 X X X X X X ACC not enabled
3) CCS target speed
[km/h]
4) CCS switch settings
X - X X X X X 1 Locked ON
X - X X X X 1 X Touched OFF
X - X X X 1 X X Touch-Down, reduce
X - X X 1 X X X Touch-Up, increase
X - X 1 X X X X Set
X - 1 X X X X X Resume
1 - X X X X X X Locked ON from hardware

007 Temperature senders
1) Fuel temperature
to 70 °C
2) Oil temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 110 °C
3) Intake air temperature
to 75 °C
4) Coolant temperature
Warmed-up: 70 ... 110 °C

008 Limiting torques
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Internal torque
[Nm]
3) Torque limitation
[Nm]
4) Smoke limitation
[Nm]

009 Limiting torques

1) Engine torque specification
[Nm] Driver input via accelerator pedal
2) Limiting torque gearbox control unit
[Nm] during gearshifting
3) Limiting torque MSR
[Nm] of engine drag torque control
4) Limiting torque TCS
[Nm] of traction control

010 Air quantities
1) Actual air mass
At idle: 210 ... 280 mg/stroke
At full throttle: > 1050 mg/stroke
At ambient air pressure 970 ... 1020 mbar
2) Ambient air pressure
[mbar]
3) Actual charge pressure
At idle: 950 ... 1080 mbar
At full throttle: > 2150 mbar
At ambient air pressure 970 ... 1020 mbar
4) Accelerator pedal position
[%]
- With exhaust gas recirculation switched off, e.g. due to high intake air temperature the air mass at idle may be increased
In this case press the accelerator in short bursts and check whether the air mass then decreases.
- Additionally check air mass via basic setting of EGR and turbocharger basic setting.

011 Charge pressure control
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Specified charge pressure
[mbar]
3) Actual charge pressure
At idle: 950 ... 1080 mbar
At full throttle: > 2150 mbar
At ambient air pressure 970 ... 1020 mbar
4) Charge pressure adjuster specification
[%]

012 Preheating system
1) Preheating system status
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Waiting for coolant temperature
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Waiting for start request
0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Glow period
0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 No glow
1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 After-glow
1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 No start glow
1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 Intermediate glow
0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 Readiness glow
0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 Start glow
1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 Waiting for after-glow
1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 No after-glow
1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 Waiting for intermediate glow
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 No glow
2) Glow period
[s]
3)Vehicle voltage
[V]
4) Coolant temperature
[°C]

013 Smooth running control
1)Cyl. 1 Injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
2)Cyl. 2 Injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
3)Cyl. 3 Injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
4) Vacant
Permissible values at idle: +- 2,99 mg/stroke
A If the permissible tolerance is exceeded
first check injector IQA-IVA adaption values

014 Smooth running control

1)Cyl. 4 Injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
2)Cyl. 5 Injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
3)Cyl. 6 Injection quantity variation
[mg/stroke]
4) Vacant
Permissible values at idle: +- 2,99 mg/stroke
A If the permissible tolerance is exceeded
first check injector IQA-IVA adaption values

015 Fuel consumption
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Injection quantity
[mg/stroke]
3) Fuel consumption
[ltr/h]
4) Engine torque specification
[Nm] Driver input via accelerator pedal

016 Additional heater
Only AUDI A6
1) Additional heater enable
0 0 No enable
0 1 No enable stage 1
1 0 No enable stage 2
1 1 Enable stages 1 and 2
2) Additional heater shut-off conditions
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 No shut-off condition
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Coolant temperature adequate
0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Alternator load signal error
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Battery voltage too high
0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Engine speed too low
0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Start delay active
0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Water temperature sensor, air temperature sensor or output stage defective
0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Operating switch (not active)
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Intake manifold temperature adequate
3) Additional heater relay activation
0 0 Relay not activated
0 1 Low heat output relay
1 0 High heat output relay
1 1 Both relay contacts active
4) Vehicle voltage (to 11.2005)
[V]
4) Alternator DF signal (from 11.2005)
[%] Alternator load

017 Readiness code
1) EOBD data A
X 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 No fault messages stored in engine control unit

0 X X X X X X X Emissions warning lamp (MIL) OFF

1 X X X X X X X Emissions warning lamp (MIL) ON
2) EOBD data B
- X X - - X X 1 Misfire monitoring activated
- X X - - X X 1 Misfire monitoring activated
- X X - - 1 X X Complete system monitoring activated
- X 0 - - X X X EOBD test fuel system completed with OK

- 0 X - - X X X EOBD test overall system completed with OK

3) EOBD data C
X X X X - X X 1 Catalytic converter monitoring activated
X X X X - X 1 X Catalytic converter hot monitoring activated
X X X X - 1 X X Evaporation system monitoring activated
X X X 1 - X X X Air conditioner coolant monitoring activated
X X 1 X - X X X Lambda probe monitoring activated
X 1 X X - X X X Lambda probe heating monitoring activated
1 X X X - X X X EGR monitoring activated
4) EOBD data D
0 - - - - - - X EOBD test EGR completed with OK


018 Throttle valve
Only for throttle valves with 4 cables on connector If 5 cables, see measured value block 038
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Throttle valve activation
[%]
3) Intake air temperature
[°C]
4) Actual air mass
[mg/stroke]

019 Fan activation
1) Coolant temperature
[°C]
2) Air conditioner fan activation
[%]
3) Radiator fan 1 activation
[%]
4) Radiator fan 2 activation
[%]

020 AC compressor
1) Ambient temperature
[°C]
2) Vacant
3) AC compressor shut-off status 1
X X X X X X X 1 Vehicle starting off
X X X X X X 1 X Shut-off due to starting off state
X X X X X 1 X X Vehicle acceleration status
X X X X 1 X X X Shut-off due to acceleration
X X X 1 X X X X Shut-off due to starting
X X 1 X X X X X System fault detected
X 1 X X X X X X Shut-off due to system fault
1 X X X X X X X Shut-off due to inadequate idling speed

4) AC compressor shut-off status 2
X X X X X X X 1 Shut-off due to excessive coolant temperature

X X X X X X 1 X Shut-off by gearbox control unit
X X X X X 1 X X Shut-off by ABS/ESP control unit
X X X X 1 X X X Shut-off due to refrigerant pressure or ambient temperature
X X X 1 X X X X Power reduction due to overheating
X X 1 X X X X X Shut-off due to fault in a radiator fan
X 1 X X X X X X Shut-off due to fault in both radiator fans
1 X X X X X X X Minimum on-time
[b]
022 Rail pressure control

1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Specified rail pressure
[bar]
3) Rail pressure actual
[bar]
4) Pressure regulating valve activation
At idle: 15 ... 30 %
- Values for warmed-up engine
- Permissible difference between specified and actual value at
Idle: maximum +-20 bar

023 Rail quantity control[/b]
1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Specified rail pressure
Check values with measured value block 022
3) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 022
4) Quantity adjuster valve activation
At idle: 35 ... 48 %
Values for warmed-up engine

024 Pre-injection 1
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Pre-injection 1 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Pre-injection 1 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 022

025 Pre-injection 2

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Pre-injection 2 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Pre-injection 2 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 022

026 Post-injection 1
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Post-injection 1 start of activation
[°CA]
3) Post-injection 1 duration of activation
[ms]
4) Rail pressure actual
Check values with measured value block 022

029 Adaptive cruise control ACC

1) ACC specification adjustment
001 Specification adjustment free-wheeling
002 Specification adjustment ON
003 Specification adjustment OFF
2) ACC status
X X X X X X 0 0 ACC inactive
X X X X X X 0 1 ACC active
X X X X X X 1 0 ACC passive
X X X X X X 1 1 ACC initialisation
X X X X X 0 X X No neutral value
X X X X X 1 X X Neutral value
X X 0 X X X X X Not permitted
X X 1 X X X X X Permitted
3) Vehicle speed
[km/h]
4) Vacant

030 Accelerator pedal position
1) Accelerator pedal sender 1
[V]
2) Accelerator pedal sender 2
[V]
3)Switch settings
X X 1 Idling speed switch ON
X 1 X Kickdown switch ON
1 X X Idling speed increased
4) Accelerator pedal position
[%]

032 Camshaft edges (from 11.2005)

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Start synchronisation
000 Basic initialisation
001 Reset counter
002 Engine standstill or fault
003 Transitional states
004 Plausibility check phase
005 Plausibility check phase
006 Plausibility check phase
008 Plausibility check phase
016 Phase definition
032 Synchronisation phase
033 System positioning
048 Calculation sequences activated --> Start OK
064 System waiting for engine standstill
128 Dynamic plausibility check
3) Camshaft edge 1
[°CA]
4) Camshaft edge 2
[°CA]

034 Charge pressure control

1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Charge pressure adjuster specification
At idle: 20 ... 80 %
3) Charge pressure adjuster actual value
At idle: 19 ... 81 %
4) Actual charge pressure
[mbar]

035 Temperature protection
1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Exhaust gas temperature before turbocharger
At idle: 140 ... 310 °C (with radiator fluid > 75 °C)
At full throttle: 540 ... 830 °C
3) Exhaust gas governing factor
At idle: 99 ... 101 % or 0.99 ... 1,01
4) Overall governing factor
At idle: 99 ... 101 % or 0.99 ... 1,01

036 Intake manifold flap bank 1
1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Intake manifold flaps bank 1 specification
At idle: 19 ... 81 %
3) Intake manifold flaps bank 1 actual value
At idle: 19 ... 81 %
4) Actual air mass
[mg/stroke]
Permissible difference between specified and actual value at
Idle: maximum +/- 2 %

037 Intake manifold flap bank 2

1) Engine speed
At idle: 720 ... 820 rpm
2) Intake manifold flaps bank 2 specification
At idle: 19 ... 81 %
3) Intake manifold flaps bank 2 actual value
At idle: 19 ... 81 %
4) Actual air mass
[mg/stroke]
Permissible difference between specified and actual value at
Idle: maximum +/- 2 %

038 Throttle valve

Only for throttle valves with 5 cables on connector
If 4 cables, see measured value block 018
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Throttle valve activation control motor
[%]
3) Throttle valve specification
[%]
4) Throttle valve actual
[%]

040 Lambda probe
1) Probe calibration value internal resistance
[%] to 11.2005
[Ohm] from 11.2005
2) Oxygen signal
[V]
3) Oxygen concentration
[%]
4) Oxygen signal calibration status
0 inactive
1 active

041 Lambda probe
1) Air mass throughput
[-]
2) Probe heater activation
[%]
3) Probe temperature signal
[V]
4) Lambda signal
[-]

042 Lambda probe

1) Air mass throughput
[-]
2) Ambient temperature
[°C]
3) Lambda probe pressure
[mbar]
4) Oxygen concentration
[mV]

043 Lambda probe

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Exhaust gas temperature at lambda probe
[°C]
3) Exhaust gas counterpressure
[mbar]
4) Exhaust gas mass flow
[-]

044 Lambda probe
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Lambda probe electronics
X X X X X X X 1 Full throttle regulator on/off
X X X X X X 1 X Full throttle
X X X X X 1 X X Control deviation negative, i.e. mixture too rich
X X X X 1 X X X System fault
X X X 1 X X X X Oxygen signal invalid or no correction
by lambda probe adaption
X X 1 X X X X X Engine starting
X 1 X X X X X X Torque limitation or quantity limitation active
1 X X X X X X X Regeneration exhaust gas treatment
3) Lambda probe plausibility check
001 Current oxygen concentration implausibly high
002 Current oxygen concentration implausibly low
004 Oxygen concentration stationary
008 Plausibility checking enabled
016 Oxygen concentration zero
032 In last time interval no rich operation
4) Lambda probe diagnosis
004 Dynamics of signal too low
008 Cable open circuit
016 Oxygen signal in overrun implausibly low
032 Oxygen signal in overrun implausibly high
064 Oxygen signal at part throttle implausibly low
128 Oxygen signal at part throttle implausibly high

051 Speed recording
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Camshaft speed
[rpm]
3) Start synchronisation
000 Basic initialisation
001 Reset counter
002 Engine standstill or fault
003 Transitional states
004 Plausibility check phase
005 Plausibility check phase
006 Plausibility check phase
008 Plausibility check phase
016 Phase definition
032 Synchronisation phase
033 System positioning
048 Calculation sequences activated --> Start OK
064 System waiting for engine standstill
128 Dynamic plausibility check
4) Injection sequence shut-off status
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Defective external watchdog
0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 Invalid engine speed
0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 Run-on
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Shut-off request for time-sync. shut-off
0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 Solenoid valve fault
0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 Overrun
0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Minimum post-injection quantity not reached
0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Minimum post-injection duration not reached
0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Deactivation of post-injection via Speed
1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Deactivation of post-injection due to Error

056 Rail pressure control (from 11.2005)

If not available, see measured value block 110
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Fuel temperature
[°C]
3) Rail pressure control status
0 Ignition on, open-loop control mode
4 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve
(normal operating mode)
5 Closed-loop control via solenoid valve
(normal operating mode)
7 Open-loop control (engine is stopped)
15 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve and
metering unit
4) Vacant

058 Engine mounting
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Vehicle speed
[km/h]
3) Engine mounting valve, right
0 = Off
1 = On
4) Engine mounting valve, left
0 = Off
1 = On

059 Gearbox mounting
Only AUDI A8
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Vehicle speed
[km/h]
3) Gearbox mounting valve 1
0 = Off
1 = On
4) Gearbox mounting valve 2
0 = Off
1 = On

060 Ancillaries

1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Indexed engine torque
[Nm]
3) Engine torque loss
[Nm]
4) Ancillaries
[Nm]

061 Ancillaries

1) Engine torque loss
[Nm]
2) Internal friction torque
[Nm]
3) AC compressor torque
[Nm]
4) Alternator output
[W]

070 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC learning cycle counter 1st calibration pressure
[-]
2) ZQC learning cycle counter 2nd calibration pressure
[-]
3) ZQC learning cycle counter 3rd calibration pressure
[-]
4) Vacant

072 Zero quantity calibration ZQC
1) ZQC cyl. 1 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 1 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 1 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

073 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 2 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 2 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 2 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

074 Zero quantity calibration ZQC

1) ZQC cyl. 3 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 3 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 3 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

075 Zero quantity calibration ZQC
1) ZQC cyl. 4 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 4 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 4 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

076 Zero quantity calibration ZQC
1) ZQC cyl. 5 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 5 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 5 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

077 Zero quantity calibration ZQC
1) ZQC cyl. 6 Activation time 1st calibration pressure
[ms]
2) ZQC cyl. 6 Activation time 2nd calibration pressure
[ms]
3) ZQC cyl. 6 Activation time 3rd calibration pressure
[ms]
4) Vacant

095 Starter control
1) Terminal 50
0 or 1
2) P/N signal
Only vehicles with automatic gearbox
Signal from selector lever switch Interlock signal
Only vehicles with manual gearbox
Signal from clutch pedal switch for engine start
0 or 1
3) Starter relay 1
0 or 1
4) Starter relay 2
0 or 1

096 Starter control
1) Terminal 50-back
0 or 1
2) Starter control shut-off conditions 1 (from 11.2005)
X X X X X X X 1 Fault starter relay
X X X X X X 1 X Fault P/N or interlock signal
3) Starter control shut-off conditions 2
X X X X X X X 1 Start rejection speed reached
X X X X X X 1 X Road speed threshold surpassed
X X X X X 1 X X Maximum start time depending on glow period surpassed
X X X X 1 X X X Maximum start time exceeded
X X X 1 X X X X Terminal 15 deactivated
X X 1 X X X X X Terminal 15 lock
X 1 X X X X X X Terminal 50 or 50-back missing
1 X X X X X X X Starter activated, but engine speed is 0 rpm
4)Vehicle voltage
[V]

100 Emergency regeneration

Only on vehicles with particulate filter
Note:
Starting emergency regeneration is only possible via Guided Fault Finding
if the <emergency regeneration> test procedure was
entered in the test plan.
1) Engine speed
In emergency regeneration: approx. 1500 rpm
2) Exhaust gas temperature before particulate filter
Regeneration active: above 550 °C
Max. permissible: 820 °C
Abort: 720 °C exceeded for more than 12 sec.
3) Em.regen. current duration
0 ... 255
Total duration: 10 to 40 minutes, depending on loading state
4) Em. regen. Abort detected
0 = Not aborted
1 = Aborted

101 Emergency regeneration
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
Note:
With this measured value block fault causes can be located
if the emergency regeneration was aborted by the engine control unit

1) Em. regen. Enable conditions 1
Before start of emergency regeneration:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 OK, because no emergency regeneration active
After start of emergency regeneration:
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 All enable conditions 1 OK
X X X X X X X 1 Minimum waiting time before start of emergency regeneration with engine running was observed
X X X X X X 1 X Coolant temperature above 70 °C
X X X X X 1 X X Oil temperature above 70 °C
X X X X 1 X X X Ambient air pressure high enough
X X X 1 X X X X Fuel temperature below 70 °C
X X 1 X X X X X Battery voltage adequate
X 1 X X X X X X No clutch pressed
1 X X X X X X X No gear engaged
2) Em. regen. Enable conditions 2
Before start of emergency regeneration:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 OK, because no emergency regeneration active
After start of emergency regeneration:
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 All enable conditions 2 OK
X X X X X X X 1 Road speed = 0
X X X X X X 1 X Engine speed in range
X X X X X 1 X X Injection quantity in permissible range
X X X X 1 X X X Accelerator pedal not pressed
X X X 1 X X X X Particulate filter temperature in permissible range
X X 1 X X X X X Pre-catalyst temperature in permissible range
X 1 X X X X X X Soot mass in particulate filter in permissible Range
1 X X X X X X X No fault memory entries leading to disabling of emergency regeneration
3) Em. regen. Abort conditions
X X X X X 1 After monitoring time temperatures not
reached
--> Cause: Consumers not switched on, ambient temperature too cold
X X X X 1 X Temperature for particulate filter exceeded
X X X 1 X X Temperature for pre-catalyst exceeded
X X 1 X X X Abort via enable conditions
--> See zone 1 or 2
X 1 X X X X Abort due to total regeneration time
--> Cause: Consumers not switched on, ambient temperature too cold
1 X X X X X Abort by diagnostic tester
4) Em. regen. Phase
000 Start emergency regeneration or not activated
001 Warm-up
010 Regeneration active
100 Cool-down

102 Exhaust gas cleaning

Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Exhaust gas temperature after pre-catalyst (to 11.2005)
At idle: 90 ... 270 °C
At full throttle: 490 ... 830 °C
1) Exhaust gas temperature before pre-catalyst (from 11.2005)
[°C] Calculated value
2) Exhaust gas temperature before particulate filter
At idle: 70 ... 250 °C
At full throttle: 490 ... 830 °C
3) Particulate filter differential pressure
0 ... 950 mbar
4) Differential pressure offset particulate filter
[mbar]

103 Field regeneration
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Regeneration mode
0 = No field regeneration active
1...100 = Regeneration stages
2) Regeneration request
X X X 1 Counter request active
X X 1 X Request by fuel consumption
X 1 X X Request by operating time
1 X X X Request by distance driven
3) Engine running time since last successful
Regeneration (from 11.2005)
[s]
4) Regeneration disable
X 1 Regeneration disabled
1 X Maximum regeneration time elapsed

104 Particulate filter

Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Oil ash
[Ltr]
2) Soot mass calculated
[g]
Displayed value is only valid when the engine has be running for at least 5 minutes.
3) Soot mass measured
[g]
Notes as field 2)
4) Distance since last regeneration
[km]

107 Particulate filter (from 11.2005)
Only on vehicles with particulate filter
1) Vacant
2) Loading limit 3
[g]
- Value changes according to software part number
- If this limit is exceeded, the engine switches to emergency running and the fault memory entr "Particulate filter overloaded" is stored
3) Loading limit 1
[g]
- Value changes according to software part number
- If this limit is exceeded, an attempt is made to start field regeneration (during driving)
4) Exhaust gas volumetric flow particulate filter
[m^3/h]
Calculated value

110 Rail pressure control (to 11.2005)
If not available, see measured value block 056
1) Engine speed
[rpm]
2) Fuel temperature
[°C]
3) Rail pressure control status
0 Ignition on, open-loop control mode
4 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve
(normal operating mode)
5 Closed-loop control via solenoid valve
(normal operating mode)
7 Open-loop control (engine is stopped)
15 Closed-loop control via pressure regulating valve and
metering unit
4) Vacant

125 CAN communication

1) CAN communic. Automatic gearbox
2) CAN communic. ABS/ESP
3) CAN communic. Instrument cluster
4) CAN communic. AC
0 = inactive
1 = active

126 CAN communication

1) CAN communic. ACC
2) Vacant
3) CAN communic. Airbag
4) Vacant
0 = inactive
1 = active

127 CAN communication
1) Vacant
2) Vacant
3) CAN communic. Steering column module
4) Vacant
0 = inactive
1 = active

129 CAN communication
1) CAN communic. Battery energy management
2) CAN communic. Gateway
3) Vacant
4) Vacant
0 = inactive
1 = active

Basic setting
for 2.7 L and 3.0 L TDI CR as at 24.04. 2007


KNote:
To start the "Basic setting" function from Guided
Fault Finding:
1) Press mode button
2) Choose "Vehicle self-diagnosis" menu option
3) Self-diagnosis

003 Basic setting: Exhaust gas recirculation
1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) First press brake pedal, then accelerator pedal
Both pedals must be pressed during basic setting.
If they are not, the basic setting is aborted.
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 1000 rpm
KNote:
The exhaust gas recirculation is now switched
on and off intermittently.
Specifications with "EGR not active":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: EGR not active
Air mass: 410 ... 560 mg/stroke
Duty cycle: 80 %
Specifications with "EGR active":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: EGR active
Air mass: 160 ... 270 mg/stroke
Duty cycle: 20 %

033 Basic setting: Turbocharger
1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) First press brake pedal, then accelerator pedal
Both pedals must be pressed during basic setting. If they are not, the basic setting is aborted.
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 1000 rpm
KNote:
The turbocharger is now activated at intervals at different
duty cycles.
Specifications at "closed":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: closed
Charge pressure: 960 ... 1160 mbar
Duty cycle: 80 %
Specifications at "open":
Engine speed: approx. 1000 rpm
Activation: open
Charge pressure: 920 ... 1060 mbar
Duty cycle: 20 %
Charge pressure difference between "closed/open": 50 ... 135 mbar OK is OK

044 Basic setting: Intake manifold flap 1
1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) First press brake pedal, then accelerator pedal
Both pedals must be pressed during basic setting.
If they are not, the basic setting is aborted.
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 2830 rpm
KNote:
Intake manifold flap 1 is now opened and closed alternatingly at intervals.

Specifications with "flap open":
Engine speed: approx. 2830 rpm
Activation: Flap open
Air mass: [mg/stroke]
Lambda value: ---
Specifications with "flap closed":
Engine speed: approx. 2830 rpm
Activation: Flap closed
Air mass: [mg/stroke]
Lambda value: ---
Air mass difference between "flap open/closed": min. 30 mg/stroke

055 Basic setting: Intake manifold flap 2
1) Coolant temperature at least 80 °C
2) Switch off ignition briefly, then start engine
3) Start basic setting
4) First press brake pedal, then accelerator pedal Both pedals must be pressed during basic setting. If they are not, the basic setting is aborted.
5) Wait for the engine speed rise to approx. 2830 rpm
KNote:
Intake manifold flap 2 is now opened and closed alternatingly at intervals.

Specifications with "flap open":
Engine speed: approx. 2830 rpm
Activation: Flap open
Air mass: [mg/stroke]
Lambda value: ---
Specifications with "flap closed":
Engine speed: approx. 2830 rpm
Activation: Flap closed
Air mass: [mg/stroke]
Lambda value: ---
Air mass difference between "flap open/closed": at least 30 mg/stroke

063 Adapting kickdown point
Not AUDI A8
Only vehicles with automatic gearbox
1) Switch off ignition briefly, then ignition on
2) Start basic setting
3) Press down accelerator pedal until status ADP OK is displayed

4) Value is only stored in engine control unit after
approx. 10 seconds ignition OFF.

Specifications:
Sender 1 Accelerator position: 12 ... 97 %
Sender 2 Accelerator position: 4 ... 94 %
---
Status: ADP.OK
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez Piotruś » 2018-03-12, 10:51

A jednak kilka różnic jest. Na przykład od razu rzuciła mi się w oczy grupa 20 - 22.
Niby większość jest tak samo ale sorry za wprowadzenie w błąd.
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-03-12, 11:06

Wielkie dzięki za pomoc , drukuje wszystko i bede analizowal , jak dla mnie wszystko co napisaliście jest w miarę jasne i logiczne.

Niestety a może i dobrze auto jest w DE , jest to auto znajomego mojego znajomego , nie wystawione nigdzie itd. , od nowości w jednej rodzinie - stąd moje zainteresowania , dlatego pytam bo nie będe mógł się posiłkować pomoca przy diagnozie , no chyba że udać sie po prostu do ASO?
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez Piotruś » 2018-03-12, 20:02

od nowości w jednej rodzinie - stąd moje zainteresowania

Prawdopodobnie to jest najlepsza rekomendacja i atrybut ewentualnej transakcji.
no chyba że udać sie po prostu do ASO?

W ASO prawdopodobnie zrobią tzw. 117'kę, czyli relatywnie dokładne sprawdzenie jak w przypadku samochodów łapiących się do programu PLUS.
Nie żebym był sceptyczny, bo taka inspekcja jest bardzo sensowna szczególnie, gdy możesz w niej uczestniczyć, szczególnie pod kątem weryfikacji podwozia i ewentualnych wycieków.
Jednak co do diagnostyki komputerowej, to CO NAJWYŻEJ odczytają pamięć usterek (sam wiesz, ze wiele z nich może być mało istotna i "historyczna"), ale gdybyś zlecił weryfikację parametrów silnika oraz DPF raczej na pewno zechcą za to dodatkową kasę.

Ja powiem tak - jeśli historia serwisowa nie zawiera szczególnie niepokojących zapisów, jeśli auto jeździ jak powinno, a skrzynia działa zgodnie z oczekiwaniami, to nie ma znowu aż tak bardzo czego przeżywać, bo w 9-letnim egzemplarzu serwisowanym po niemiecku i tak kilka rzeczy będzie wymagało odchwaszczenia. W dzisiejszych czasach zdobycie auta z dobrego źródła graniczy z cudem, dlatego (zrozum nie odpowiednio) nie ma co zbytnio wybrzydzać i jeśli nie znajdziesz jakiejś ewidentnej miny i tak warto kupić - choćby na handel :-D ...
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-03-12, 22:08

w podobny sposób myślałem <okok> ale lubię mieć jakieś podstawy , druga sprawa rocznik 2008 powinien być już troszkę dopracowany w stosunku do wcześniejszych - dobrze kombinuje?
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez Piotruś » 2018-03-12, 23:24

Umówmy się, że gdybyś chciał kupić BMK (jak i równorzędne rocznikowo BPP) delikatnie starałbym się odwieść Cię od tego pomysłu, ale przy ASB RM'2008 szanse zakupu dobrego egzemplarza są duże. Poza tym HIPOTETYCZNE zagrożenia, które miałbym wtedy na myśli w takim samym (o ile nie większym) stopniu dotyczyłyby też benzynowych V6'tek 2.4 i 3.0 .
Także spoko. Mam nadzieję, ze nasze Forum niedługo wzbogaci się o dobrze wytypowane ASB :-D .
A jeśli go nie chcesz - rzeknij słowo. Uwzględniając wiarygodność pochodzenia ja chętnie wezmę go w ciemno (jak najbardziej serio). Ktoś na pewno będzie się nim jeszcze długo cieszył nawet gdyby trzeba w niego coś niecoś zainwestować. Dobre rzeczy kosztują i nie ma od tego ulgi ... .
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-03-12, 23:29

No dlatego 2.4 mnie do konca nie przekonuje , dodatkowo trudno coś znaleźć z rocznika 2007-2008 i jeszcze ciekawie wyposażone ( większość to wersje GL - Golas Limited :P )
BYŁY : A4 B5 1.9TDI TIP , A6 C5 2.4 MULTI , A6 C6 3.0TDI MAN , A4 B5 1.8T TIP JEST : Ford Smax 2.0TDCI automat , A4 B7 2.0TDI MULTI
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-04-24, 09:05

No i zakupiłem w końcu auto - 3.0tdi quattro ale manual :) zdecydował stan auta , Kod silnika ASB rm 2007 , 240 tys km ( pełna historia przebiegu bez kombinacji raczej )

Ściągawka bardzo się przydała ;)
BYŁY : A4 B5 1.9TDI TIP , A6 C5 2.4 MULTI , A6 C6 3.0TDI MAN , A4 B5 1.8T TIP JEST : Ford Smax 2.0TDCI automat , A4 B7 2.0TDI MULTI
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Nadwozie: Avant
Zasilanie: Diesel
Silnik: 2.0TDI BLB 140KM
Napęd: FWD
Skrzynia: Multitronic
Rok: 2005
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez Piotruś » 2018-04-24, 09:39

No i git :-D :-P .
Gratulacje :!: :!:
Szerokości życzę i duuuuużo satysfakcji z nowego nabytku :mrgreen: !!
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Re: Sprawdzanie 3.0tdi

Postprzez bendzji » 2018-04-24, 09:54

Te gratulacje to sie jeszcze okaże :P

Historia jest przewrotna , zaczalem od szukania 2.4 w automacie a skończyłem z 3.0tdi w manualu

Teraz pakiet startowy po tak jak pisałeś serwisowane po niemiecku , czyt. - wymiana oleju wg wskazań itd
BYŁY : A4 B5 1.9TDI TIP , A6 C5 2.4 MULTI , A6 C6 3.0TDI MAN , A4 B5 1.8T TIP JEST : Ford Smax 2.0TDCI automat , A4 B7 2.0TDI MULTI
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Posty: 1460
Dołączył(a): 2014-05-25, 07:40
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Model: A4
Nadwozie: Avant
Zasilanie: Diesel
Silnik: 2.0TDI BLB 140KM
Napęd: FWD
Skrzynia: Multitronic
Rok: 2005
Imię: Michał


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